tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624877443029680982.post5496763720867533057..comments2023-07-25T08:11:11.078-07:00Comments on Debbie Cowens: Cross-dressing CharactersDebbie Cowenshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07345631448431031295noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624877443029680982.post-2302224177610763652010-05-08T12:22:26.684-07:002010-05-08T12:22:26.684-07:00Oh yeah. How could I forget Norman Bates? *Slaps f...Oh yeah. How could I forget Norman Bates? *Slaps forehead* <br /><br />Seriously creepy and totally not funny.Debbie Cowenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07345631448431031295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624877443029680982.post-21101602598455749952010-05-07T04:45:44.422-07:002010-05-07T04:45:44.422-07:00Here's an un-funny man-as-old-woman for you: N...Here's an un-funny man-as-old-woman for you: Norman Bates dressed as his mother and killing young women!<br /><br />Not so funny. <br /><br />Intersting take on cross-dressing and the great divide that exists between men and women. In this case, I think women get the upper hand. I'll take bravery over comedy any day!<br /><br />Michele<br /><a href="http://southerncitymysteries.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">SouthernCityMysteries</a>JournoMichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11170364981958685438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624877443029680982.post-45055688802648446612010-05-04T18:06:05.410-07:002010-05-04T18:06:05.410-07:00Oh yeah, I can see how the whole assumed humour of...Oh yeah, I can see how the whole assumed humour of 'guy in dress' thing would be really obnoxious for transgender people and their friends and families.<br /><br />Breakfast on Pluto sounds interesting.<br /><br />I think you're right about the rather condescending stereotype that old ladies are harmless being part of the tradition of men dressing as old women for a laugh.Debbie Cowenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07345631448431031295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6624877443029680982.post-26093968520032927852010-05-04T11:54:42.430-07:002010-05-04T11:54:42.430-07:00Yeah, there's a Pantomime Dame, Drag Queen, Wo...Yeah, there's a Pantomime Dame, Drag Queen, Wolf-as-Granny thing to a man disguised as a woman if there's a gown involved. So I can see it. I kinda lost the funny of it last year - had a workmate/friend, a transgender woman in her fifties, who copped a LOT of "man in a dress" flak because she wasn't traditionally pretty. And I think a lot of what made people think it was okay to do that was the comedic tradition, as well as a sort of "ahah, you see how clever I am for figuring it out!" thing.<br /><br />I think there's a big difference, though, between a Bold Hero known for disguises donning a gown, and someone quite seriously trying to pass (the later years of Patrick "Pussy" Braden in Breakfast on Pluto, for example, when he'd gone past a bit of glam and glitter and wore housecoats and switched pronouns). Pussy (renamed "Kitten" for the recent film version) was a character with a lot of comedy, but her gender identity wasn't the main source of it :).<br /><br />Part of the comedy of a man disguising himself as an elderly woman is, I think, a consequence of how we view the elderly. The demure, sweet, conservative, kindly little old woman... who then takes out the guard with a roundhouse kick to the face :). It's comedy of the expectation/surprise variety. Or a character we know to be pretty crass and rough making an effort to be polite and sweet, that kinda thing.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04353291796941429635noreply@blogger.com